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Re: Oracle's relationships with expert DBAs (and the rest of us mere mortals)

Niall Litchfield

2006-05-31

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On 5/31/06, MVE <mvetmp-ora@yahoo.com> wrote:
--- Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 5/31/06, MVE <mvetmp-ora@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > What edge does Linux on a PC has over Solaris on a Sun Box?
>
> Adequate performance at a hugely reduced cost. Windows has this as well. As
> a rule of thumb, yes I know!, you can now run at least a hundred concurrent
> sessions of an erp app on hardware and software costing less than GBP4000
> (oracle license excluded).  Is it cast iron guaranteed reliable and
> available, well no. Do you need it to be - probably not.
>
> Niall Litchfield

That hardware cost "reduction" is irrelevant when you figure the rest of the
cost to run a fairly decent size shop on ORACLE.

well define fairly decent sized.  I'm firmly in the < 5000 employees < 300 concurrent user space here.

And when a shop has close 1 MIL in license and support fees the lousy 8K are
not even a drop of water in the bucket.


well I just priced a 4-way opteron based system from HP with 4gb of ram (plenty for the type of customer I had in mind) at just over 5k us dollars. without any corporate deal.  Again the list price of Oracle EE + support for this (don't need to buy EE here but lets just inflate things anyway) is 166k USD.  again no corporate deal.


of course I could just buy a 4 way sun 440 for 24k and license Oracle at  the same  166k.

so on a spend of 190k  I just saved 19k or 10%. people like this. especially when they realize that a 4 way opteron likely beats an 8 way sparc 3 and they just saved 187k out of 280 odd.
 

And then 4 years later there's the mighty APPS upgrade and here you are on a
fluid-always-changing platform (Linux), shoot in the foot, having to work twice
as hard for what?  For a lousy 8K reduction in the initial cost of hardware
that is already obsolete anyway?

Now I agree that linux is a far too volatile base, but compared to apps? - come on. So long as you don't do legal patches, security patches and rollups you are probably in the same ball park.


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Niall Litchfield
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