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RE: AW: [suse-oracle] Kernel Bug

Kevin Closson

2007-01-10

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Seems somehting simple like http://oem.suse.com/pub/people/mason/utils/aio-stress.c would hit it. I know libodm.so doesn't :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Westheider [mailto:frank.westheider@(protected)]
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 3:50 AM
To: 'Arun Singh'; suse-oracle@(protected)
Subject: AW: AW: [suse-oracle] Kernel Bug

Hi Warren,
Hi Arun,

As we saw while googling for this bug, IBM-DB2 is having the same problem
with exactly the same problem: aio.c:733.

So it's not only an suse-oracle-problem!

Bye
 Frank

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Arun Singh [mailto:Arun.Singh@(protected)]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 22:16
An: suse-oracle@(protected)
Betreff: RE: AW: [suse-oracle] Kernel Bug

Thanks Warren,

Is there anyone who nailed this kernel bug in non-database environment
i.e. some sort of aio program?


>>> On 1/9/2007 at 12:44 PM, "Stout, Warren" <WStout@(protected):

> I've found it rather easy to create this problem. Just having archive

> logging on and running heavy I/O ( such as doing several imports )
will
> create this async problem. I had to turn off archive logging to get
rid of
> the errors.
>
> Warren
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Arun Singh [mailto:Arun.Singh@(protected)]
> Sent: Tue 1/9/2007 11:41 AM
> To: Frank Westheider
> Cc: 'Anton Dischner'; suse-oracle@(protected)
> Subject: Re: AW: [suse-oracle] Novell - it is VERY SERIOUS!
Weshouldadvise
> against using SuSe and Oracle if
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> I can understand the frustration here as I am following this in the
> bugzilla. You are right in asserting the complexity of the bug.
>
> Regards,
> Arun
>
>>>> On 1/9/2007 at 11:11 AM, "Frank Westheider"
> <frank.westheider@(protected)>
> wrote:
>> Hi Arun,
>>
>> Sorry...but cool down is not an option.
>>
>> We have this bug on 3 machines since beginning of september (!!!)
and
> opened
>> novell and oracle support-cases....without any success/effort.
>>
>> We escalated these cases at novell and got 2 kernel-ptf-fixes...we
> tested
>> both and diffed the ptf-kernel-source with the original buggy
>> kernel-source...and even we saw, that the difference were not
> concerning the
>> aio-kernel-part.
>>
>> We can reproduce the problem (and wrote this to the support too)
with
> heavy
>> async-io-load over a duration of several days (batch-processes). So
i
> think,
>> this would be possible to Novell/Oracle/the kernel-guys as well
with
> simple
>> db-jobs using aio and firing until the aio-bug is shown....
>>
>> Head-shaking about the support...beginning of september and no
really
> effort
>> to fix this thing. I hope you know, what aio is doing for really
> busy
>> databases...
>>
>> Frank
>>
>> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>> Von: Arun Singh [mailto:Arun.Singh@(protected)]
>> Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Januar 2007 16:34
>> An: suse-oracle@(protected)
>> Betreff: RE: [suse-oracle] Novell - it is VERY SERIOUS! We
> shouldadvise
>> against using SuSe and Oracle if suc
>>
>> Cool down folks. Do any of you have any easy way to trigger this
> kernel bug?
>> I can promise fix will take no time, If we can find a way to
simulate
> this
>> bug internally. SUSE support/kernel team is aware of the
seriousness
> of this
>> bug.
>>
>> -Arun
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> On 1/9/2007 at 1:16 AM, "Yoav Givon" <YGivon@(protected):
>>> I strongly support you Alexei on this one. This is not very
> business
>>> like and I believe Novell Officials should make some strong
> commitment
>>> here other wise they will loose us . Loud and Clear.
>>>
>>> Yoav Givon
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Alexei_Roudnev [mailto:Alexei_Roudnev@(protected)]
>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 10:40 PM
>>> To: Anton Dischner; Didier Boiteux
>>> Cc: SuSE MailingList
>>> Subject: [suse-oracle] Novell - it is VERY SERIOUS! We should
> advise
>>> against using SuSe and Oracle if such bugs are not fixed
PROMPTLY!!
> Re:
>>> AW: [suse-oracle] kernel bug
>>>
>>> This is a critical bug - why it takes so long to fix it?
>>>
>>> Novell is not primary Linux in Oracle (it is not tested with it
>>> automatically by internal users, as they do with RHEL4.4), so it
> makes
>>> a very important to fix such problems ASAP when they arise!)
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Anton Dischner" <Anton.Dischner@(protected)>
>>> To: "Didier Boiteux" <dboiteux@(protected)>
>>> Cc: "SuSE MailingList" <suse-oracle@(protected)>
>>> Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 12:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re: AW: [suse-oracle] kernel bug
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> we had a kernel crash with a system which had the last kernel
> patches
>>>> installed.
>>>>
>>>> Kernel 2.6.5-7.283 did -not- fix the kernel BUG at fs/aio.c:733
>>>> with bug number 165140
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>>
>>>> Toni
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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