RE: Does EXEC do a FETCH?

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Stefan,

Thanks for the reply. I don't think this is correct, however. My understanding of forward attribution is that it isn't a definitive rule as much as a logical outcome of the order in which work needs to be done. Let me explain. If I/O needs to be done (scattered read, sequential read) to get some data, this needs to be done prior to the FETCH. (you can't fetch the data if you haven't read it into the SGA) In this case, the I/O waits precede the database call and their work/elapsed time can correctly be associated with the FETCH which directly follows. Sending the data to the client, however, must come after the FETCH, as it does in all cases except for the initial FETCH. That is why I am thinking that the first FETCH serves for bookkeeping of r, e, cr, cu, ..., but is not a 'real' FETCH and is out of order.

Henry

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Knecht [mailto:knecht.stefan@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 1:39 PM
To: henry@itasoftware.com
Cc: oracle-l
Subject: Re: Does EXEC do a FETCH?

I don't think it's PRIOR to the fetch -- I'd interpret this as being "THE" fetch.

From what I understand by reading 10046 trace files - all the events listed belong to the next call that follows (for the same cursor) in the tracefile.

Therefore if you have

PARSE
WAIT 1
WAIT 2
EXEC
WAIT 3
WAIT 4
WAIT 5
FETCH
WAIT 6
FETCH

It basically means that waits 1&2 "belong" to the EXEC call, waits 3-5 to the 1st FETCH call and wait 6 to the second FETCH call.

Stefan

On 7/13/07, Henry Poras <henry@itasoftware.com> wrote:
I've been spending some time on my system trying to do time accounting by
comparing output from sqlnet trace files and 10046 traces. While doing this,
I've realized I don't understand what is  going on with the EXEC and FETCH
calls with simple SELECT statements. (this is on a MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "10.2.0.3" claiming to be 10.2.0.3 db RedHat 2.6.9)

I ran a simple test case which returned a single record. From looking at the
10046 trace it appears as though the data is sent to the client before the
FETCH call. Huh? Is the initial FETCH  actually coupled with the EXEC and
just broken out in the trace file at a later time?

=====================
PARSING IN CURSOR #2 len=53 dep=0 uid=40 oct=3 lid=40 tim=1156580450666631
hv=1459047207 ad='9ae399a8'
select /* fetch test */ ename
from emp
where rownum=1
END OF STMT
PARSE
#2:c=6999,e=6990,p=0,cr=18,cu=0,mis=1,r=0,dep=0,og=1,tim=1156580450666627
BINDS #2:
EXEC #2:c=0,e=39,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=1,tim=1156580450666729
WAIT #2: nam='SQL*Net message to client' ela= 4 driver id=1413697536
#bytes=1 p3=0 obj#=-1 tim=1156580450666769               <===
FETCH #2:c=0,e=59,p=0,cr=5,cu=0,mis=0,r=1,dep=0,og=1,tim=1156580450666858
<===
WAIT #2: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 1253 driver id=1413697536
#bytes=1 p3=0 obj#=-1 tim=1156580450668168
FETCH #2:c=0,e=2,p=0,cr=0,cu=0,mis=0,r=0,dep=0,og=0,tim=1156580450668205
WAIT #2: nam='SQL*Net message to client' ela= 1 driver id=1413697536
#bytes=1 p3=0 obj#=-1 tim=1156580450668226
*** 2007-07-13 10:53:12.998
WAIT #2: nam='SQL*Net message from client' ela= 11244427 driver
id=1413697536 #bytes=1 p3=0 obj#=-1 tim=1156580461912676
STAT #2 id=1 cnt=1 pid=0 pos=1 obj=0 op='COUNT STOPKEY (cr=5 pr=0 pw=0
time=55 us)'
STAT #2 id=2 cnt=1 pid=1 pos=1 obj=48029 op='TABLE ACCESS FULL EMP (cr=5
pr=0 pw=0 time=43 us)'
=====================

So after the EXEC, a packet is sent to the client followed by a FETCH of one
record (r=1). After getting confirmation back from the client (message from
client wait), sqlplus does its final  FETCH confirming no more data, and
sends this to the client (message to client). The client then responds with
the next sql to parse.

Looking at the sqlnet trace (level=SUPPORT), I see the following packets:

1. nspsend of the SQL  (after getting this, the PARSE should happen)
2. nsprecv of the result set (header information [ENAME], and the data
[SMITH])
    This is connected to the 'SQL*Net message to client' wait immediately
following the EXEC
3. nspend (plen=21). I assume this is confirmation of receipt of the data
packet
4. nsprecv of packet containing ORA-01403 no data found
5. nspsend of next SQL

So the data is sent from the server to the client prior to the initial
FETCH. The second FETCH confirms no more data and that is sent to the client
after the FETCH.

I am wondering if the initial EXEC actually does EXEC and FETCH, and the
explicit FETCH call is just bookkeeping, not the real work. Maybe the Oracle
kernal changed the way it does its  work, but the 10046 display hasn't been
adjusted accordingly.

Has anyone else seen this? Are there any other explanations?

Thanks.

Henry

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RE: Does EXEC do a FETCH?

Henry Poras

2007-07-16